Talk:Cheng Zhi
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[edit] Villain?
I don't see this character as a villain. Sure he's an antagonist, but he is working to restore the order of justice. After all, the raid on the embassy in day 4 was totally illegal, and Jack's actions did cause the consul to be killed. Any thoughts? --Blue Rook 22:59, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
- You're over analyzing. If we consider every character's motives, there would be no heroes or villains. Someone who sympathizes with the terrorists from each respective season might consider Jack Bauer a villain. Cheng tortured Jack for nearly two years, kidnapped his lover and shot an undercover agent in the head. He's one bad dude. Yes, I'd say he's a villain. -- Azure Syaoran 01:52, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
To Azure: I'm not simply analyzing motivations, but the moral justification of actions taken against Jack specifically. Denying terrorists their civil rights (torture) on American soil is one thing, but invading not just any foreign territory but a consulate exclave in the US is another entirely. Diplomatic soil is supposed to be respected and protected above all else; there are not just personal motives involved here but also a violation of international laws and principles, and these are the intangibles I am getting at. Blue Rook 03:42, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
- Is this question relevant to the article? --Proudhug 02:10, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
It may not be relevant to the article but I would think this question is certainly relevant to the character. Blue Rook 03:42, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
- Yes, but this is a Talk page for Wiki 24, an encyclopedia about 24, not a discussion forum for opinions on things. Check out the introduction to The Situation Room. --Proudhug 03:46, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
- In Day 4 and 5, he might not be a villain. But in Day 6, he threatens to kill Audrey if Jack doesn't give him a subcircuit board. He is definitely a villain there. Really does this have anything to do with bringing Jack to justice, or is this simply for Cheng's personal gain? Comp25 23:43, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- He's categorized as an antagonist for that season as it stands. Are you implying that you want to change this? – Blue Rook 00:28, 3 June 2008 (UTC)talkcontribs
[edit] Surname
He should be referred to as Cheng, not Zhi. The surname is first in Chinese and several other languages. Xlator 08:24, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
- I don't see that it matters. Jack's referred to as Jack most of the time, not Bauer. --Proudhug 14:26, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
I have a question about Cheng's surname; in Day 4 (when he calls Michelle Dessler to talk about the attack on the Chinese Consulate) he identifies himself as Cheng Gow. Do any of you understand as to why his last name is changed from Gow to Zhi? -- Stv naba 22:19, 24 June 2007
[edit] Moving to talk page
Starting a discussion here, as edit warring is something I'm not for. A user previously removed a duplicate entry from the background notes section, specifically, "When introducing himself to Michelle Dessler he introduced himself as Chung Dao.", which is basically a duplicate of the next sentence. During his first appearance in Day 4 3:00am-4:00am, Cheng introduces himself to Michelle Dessler as Cheng Gow (or Dao). The name was first changed in the Previously segment in Day 4 5:00am-6:00am.. Can you see the thing here that was being fixed? Steve C // talk // email // 10:00, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
- Hah, I noticed my stupid mistake just before you posted this. Sorry for the confusion! --SignorSimon (talk/contribs/email) 10:10, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
