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:We can be sure that Frank was definitely one of the Suvarov detail. He could be a liaison, or someone who arrived later at the scene. Actually I think the secret service category is not very proper, as there was no proof that he was a secret service agent. --[[User:William.Y.Fremont|William]] ([[User talk:William.Y.Fremont|talk]]) 02:04, October 21, 2014 (UTC)
 
:We can be sure that Frank was definitely one of the Suvarov detail. He could be a liaison, or someone who arrived later at the scene. Actually I think the secret service category is not very proper, as there was no proof that he was a secret service agent. --[[User:William.Y.Fremont|William]] ([[User talk:William.Y.Fremont|talk]]) 02:04, October 21, 2014 (UTC)
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::Yeah, I wasn't sure that the Secret Service category was proper for him, either, I just didn't know what else to call him. Like what would I say, "Frank was a guy on Day 5,"?
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::On the other hand, what kind of liaison could he have been besides Secret Service? And I don't remember exactly what he said, but I got a strong impression when he mentioned that the Secret Service had taken heavy casualties that he was talking about his co-workers, like ''we'' got hit hard.
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::And if he was just police or something, would it make sense that he would have [[Mike Novick]]'s phone number and that he would be the one to call Mike?--[[User:Sampson789|Sampson789]] ([[User talk:Sampson789|talk]]) 02:51, October 21, 2014 (UTC)
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:::I can't watch the episode right now but if Frank did say "WE got hit hard" I think he's definitely a SS agent.
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::: If you check [[Talk:Deaths on 24#Felsted Security and Motorcade attack]], you can see the discussion that 12 body bags were seen at the scene, 1 SS agent was seen sitting in an ambulance being treated for injury, and 4 terrorists (Eric, lieutenant, 2 guys at morgue) were killed so 8 out of 10 SS agents were killed, leaving only one survivor agent (the guy mentioned above treated for injury) besides Aaron. I think it's plausible and convenient to add the surname Diller to Frank, as [[:File:5x10 SS namelist.jpg|Agent F. Diller was in rear position]] and was not seen killed on-screen. [[User:William.Y.Fremont|William]] ([[User talk:William.Y.Fremont|talk]]) 04:29, October 21, 2014 (UTC)
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'''MY CONCLUSION''':The two LAPD officers were the Forward position guys (despite being listed as agents in the [[:File:5x10 SS namelist.jpg|ss roster]]), [[John Meier]] and [[Marcus Young]] were Left flank guys, the suv agents behind the Suvarov motorcade were Right flank guys, the last suv agents were Rear position guys. Agents Frank Diller and Aaron Pierce were the only Secret Service survivors. Do you agree upon this? --[[User:William.Y.Fremont|William]] ([[User talk:William.Y.Fremont|talk]]) 14:33, April 9, 2015 (UTC)

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Surname?[]

I don't recall right now whether Frank says his own name or Mike Novick says his name, but either way he is introduced simply as "Frank". Could we use the video screen from that same episode that lists the detail for the Suvarovs' motorcade to deduce that Frank's last name is Diller because that's the only agent listed whose first initial is "F"?--Sampson789 (talk) 01:06, October 21, 2014 (UTC)

We can be sure that Frank was definitely one of the Suvarov detail. He could be a liaison, or someone who arrived later at the scene. Actually I think the secret service category is not very proper, as there was no proof that he was a secret service agent. --William (talk) 02:04, October 21, 2014 (UTC)
Yeah, I wasn't sure that the Secret Service category was proper for him, either, I just didn't know what else to call him. Like what would I say, "Frank was a guy on Day 5,"?
On the other hand, what kind of liaison could he have been besides Secret Service? And I don't remember exactly what he said, but I got a strong impression when he mentioned that the Secret Service had taken heavy casualties that he was talking about his co-workers, like we got hit hard.
And if he was just police or something, would it make sense that he would have Mike Novick's phone number and that he would be the one to call Mike?--Sampson789 (talk) 02:51, October 21, 2014 (UTC)
I can't watch the episode right now but if Frank did say "WE got hit hard" I think he's definitely a SS agent.
If you check Talk:Deaths on 24#Felsted Security and Motorcade attack, you can see the discussion that 12 body bags were seen at the scene, 1 SS agent was seen sitting in an ambulance being treated for injury, and 4 terrorists (Eric, lieutenant, 2 guys at morgue) were killed so 8 out of 10 SS agents were killed, leaving only one survivor agent (the guy mentioned above treated for injury) besides Aaron. I think it's plausible and convenient to add the surname Diller to Frank, as Agent F. Diller was in rear position and was not seen killed on-screen. William (talk) 04:29, October 21, 2014 (UTC)

MY CONCLUSION:The two LAPD officers were the Forward position guys (despite being listed as agents in the ss roster), John Meier and Marcus Young were Left flank guys, the suv agents behind the Suvarov motorcade were Right flank guys, the last suv agents were Rear position guys. Agents Frank Diller and Aaron Pierce were the only Secret Service survivors. Do you agree upon this? --William (talk) 14:33, April 9, 2015 (UTC)