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::::::I don't know, I think Haynes' ears look much bigger than Rishi's, but that might just be the difference in camera angles.--[[User:Sampson789|Sampson789]] ([[User talk:Sampson789|talk]]) 02:59, October 21, 2014 (UTC)
 
::::::I don't know, I think Haynes' ears look much bigger than Rishi's, but that might just be the difference in camera angles.--[[User:Sampson789|Sampson789]] ([[User talk:Sampson789|talk]]) 02:59, October 21, 2014 (UTC)
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:::::Besides the physical appearance, I think their clothes were different too. Haynes was wearing a black jacket while Andre's character was wearing a dark green one. [[User:William.Y.Fremont|William]] ([[User talk:William.Y.Fremont|talk]]) 04:33, October 21, 2014 (UTC)
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::::::Just by looking at the pictures, I think Rishi's jacket and Haynes' jacket both look dark brown/black. Anyway, isn't it plausible that when they deleted Rishi's scene that they put a different jacket on him so he could portray Haynes?--[[User:Sampson789|Sampson789]] ([[User talk:Sampson789|talk]]) 05:16, October 21, 2014 (UTC)
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:::::::I'm not seeing dark green, just dark. I was reluctant on the ears but I studied both photos on the same screen together and it just seems to be throwing others off due to the fast-paced editing. I didn't yet consider that he was assigned to play two different roles but you never know.
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Update: Yeah, I'm still not seeing any significant difference between either character. Who is still having doubts?--[[User:Gunman6|Gunman6]] ([[User talk:Gunman6|talk]]) 06:15, October 21, 2014 (UTC)
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:These aren't the same guy, Andre Rishi has a fair bit of hair on his head whereas Haynes is completely bald--[[user:Acer4666|Acer4666]] ([[User talk:Acer4666|talk]]) 19:28, January 10, 2015 (UTC)
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== Earlier appearance? ==
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I think Haynes may have possibly appeared in 3x19 as a member of the advance team at the University of California. He can be seen greeting Jack and Kim before closing the van doors and driving to the university, and working inside the mobile station monitoring surveillance. I think he may have also been a member of the team to apprehend Arthur Rabens at the subway (there's a deleted scene where Jack and Chase brief the agents and I vaguely remember seeing him there, though not sure if he appeared in the actual episode - will have to double check). The colour of his jacket matches his 3x24 appearance and whilst it's very blurry, he seems to have the same haircut.
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File:3x19 CTU UC agent 2.jpg|UC agent
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File:3x20 UCSB agent 2.jpg|UC agent
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File:3x15 CTU forensics 1.jpg|Go Parlor
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File:3x24 Haynes.jpg|The guy addressed as "Haynes"
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</gallery>
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Thoughts? - [[User:LeeCastle24|LeeCastle24]] ([[User talk:LeeCastle24|talk]]) 15:22, 15 August 2021 (UTC)
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:I think this is the same guy as Haynes, as well as the [https://postimg.cc/w3hPrJ7V guy] in the deleted scene. I think he also appears in episode 15 in the Go Parlor, I've added a shot to the gallery. According to the binders, the guy at the Go Parlor was Horace (or "Trey") Murphy, who you can see pics of [https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Trey_Murphy here], [https://www.linkedin.com/in/horace-murphy-2145a2137/ here], [https://postimg.cc/94tfffP8 here] or [https://postimg.cc/TL3TYJ31 here]--[[User:Acer4666|Acer4666]] ([[User talk:Acer4666|Talk]]) 15:26, 3 September 2022 (UTC)
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::Have added a clearer shot of the UCSB agent's face. I think we can be certain this is Haynes, as he is wearing exactly the same clothes as you can see [https://postimg.cc/6ymcHWvm when he arrives] with Janice Allen. He also does appear in the subway scenes in 3x23.
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::The only question is if people agree he is played by Horace Murphy (in which case, he is also the agent at the Go Parlor). I think they look like the same person, any disagreements?--[[User:Acer4666|Acer4666]] ([[User talk:Acer4666|Talk]]) 17:46, 10 September 2022 (UTC)
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:::I think the deleted scene guy would be [[:File:3x24 agent taking photos 2.jpg|this guy]], but I'm 99% sure you can see Haynes at the station in the actual episode anyway as you confirmed. As for the go parlor/Trey Murphy, I'm fairly sure it's him - he doesn't look like him on the Memory Alpha picture though but the others look pretty similar! - [[User:LeeCastle24|LeeCastle24]] ([[User talk:LeeCastle24|talk]]) 12:29, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
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::Yeah the shot I posted earlier from the deleted scene isn't Haynes; Haynes does appear in the deleted scene (on the right [https://postimg.cc/sBCBCmtK here]) but I mistakenly thought the shot of the back of the guy's head was him. And yep, he definitely also appears in the episode, you can see him [https://postimg.cc/TL7gxmjw here]--[[User:Acer4666|Acer4666]] ([[User talk:Acer4666|Talk]]) 12:36, 19 September 2022 (UTC)

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Title[]

Is the (CTU) still necessary to this article's title? As far as I can tell, he is now the only character named Haynes in the series.--Sampson789 (talk) 04:21, October 16, 2014 (UTC)

See here.--Gunman6 (talk) 02:41, October 21, 2014 (UTC)
There's no other character that's just named Haynes anymore, so we can drop the "(CTU)", right?--Sampson789 (talk) 03:02, October 21, 2014 (UTC)

Appearance and possible actor[]

Since he's not listed as only a mentioned character, I guess you guys know that he made a very brief appearance, right? Just nobody has a picture of him to upload yet?

Does anybody think there's a chance that Haynes might be portrayed by Andre Rishi? I know all you can see is the back of Haynes's head, but, as far as I can tell, the back of Rishi's head might look like that.--Sampson789 (talk) 04:29, October 16, 2014 (UTC)

This is the best shot i got for Haynes, and honestly i don't think he's Andre. William (talk) 05:25, October 16, 2014 (UTC)
That's better than I expected. I think I agree, it's probably not Andre Rishi; however, I think it would be worthwhile to put that photo up on the article so readers will kind of know what to look for if they try to identify him as they watch the episode, you know what I mean?--Sampson789 (talk) 05:51, October 16, 2014 (UTC)
Yep. I will try to get a good shot of him asap. William (talk) 08:06, October 16, 2014 (UTC)
His head actually matches up quite perfectly and would explain why he was still credited in the finished episode and it's helped by the fact that the shaved head and jaw alignment match up also. --Gunman6 (talk) 23:57, October 20, 2014 (UTC)
Okay, I thought it would fit as a good explanation for his co-star credit. Is there any way to contact him and ask him if that's him?--Sampson789 (talk) 00:58, October 21, 2014 (UTC)
I don't think the face in the Haynes picture matches up to Andre Rishi's, but I haven't seen the actual deleted scenes, just his picture on the Unnamed deleted characters page. --William (talk) 02:09, October 21, 2014 (UTC)
Here's his LinkedIn profile and his official site. Anyways, aside from the scene itself, I'm not seeing what doesn't match up on the facial lining. The ears especially match up well.--Gunman6 (talk) 02:12, October 21, 2014 (UTC)
I don't know, I think Haynes' ears look much bigger than Rishi's, but that might just be the difference in camera angles.--Sampson789 (talk) 02:59, October 21, 2014 (UTC)
Besides the physical appearance, I think their clothes were different too. Haynes was wearing a black jacket while Andre's character was wearing a dark green one. William (talk) 04:33, October 21, 2014 (UTC)
Just by looking at the pictures, I think Rishi's jacket and Haynes' jacket both look dark brown/black. Anyway, isn't it plausible that when they deleted Rishi's scene that they put a different jacket on him so he could portray Haynes?--Sampson789 (talk) 05:16, October 21, 2014 (UTC)
I'm not seeing dark green, just dark. I was reluctant on the ears but I studied both photos on the same screen together and it just seems to be throwing others off due to the fast-paced editing. I didn't yet consider that he was assigned to play two different roles but you never know.

Update: Yeah, I'm still not seeing any significant difference between either character. Who is still having doubts?--Gunman6 (talk) 06:15, October 21, 2014 (UTC)

These aren't the same guy, Andre Rishi has a fair bit of hair on his head whereas Haynes is completely bald--Acer4666 (talk) 19:28, January 10, 2015 (UTC)

Earlier appearance?[]

I think Haynes may have possibly appeared in 3x19 as a member of the advance team at the University of California. He can be seen greeting Jack and Kim before closing the van doors and driving to the university, and working inside the mobile station monitoring surveillance. I think he may have also been a member of the team to apprehend Arthur Rabens at the subway (there's a deleted scene where Jack and Chase brief the agents and I vaguely remember seeing him there, though not sure if he appeared in the actual episode - will have to double check). The colour of his jacket matches his 3x24 appearance and whilst it's very blurry, he seems to have the same haircut.

Thoughts? - LeeCastle24 (talk) 15:22, 15 August 2021 (UTC)

I think this is the same guy as Haynes, as well as the guy in the deleted scene. I think he also appears in episode 15 in the Go Parlor, I've added a shot to the gallery. According to the binders, the guy at the Go Parlor was Horace (or "Trey") Murphy, who you can see pics of here, here, here or here--Acer4666 (Talk) 15:26, 3 September 2022 (UTC)
Have added a clearer shot of the UCSB agent's face. I think we can be certain this is Haynes, as he is wearing exactly the same clothes as you can see when he arrives with Janice Allen. He also does appear in the subway scenes in 3x23.
The only question is if people agree he is played by Horace Murphy (in which case, he is also the agent at the Go Parlor). I think they look like the same person, any disagreements?--Acer4666 (Talk) 17:46, 10 September 2022 (UTC)
I think the deleted scene guy would be this guy, but I'm 99% sure you can see Haynes at the station in the actual episode anyway as you confirmed. As for the go parlor/Trey Murphy, I'm fairly sure it's him - he doesn't look like him on the Memory Alpha picture though but the others look pretty similar! - LeeCastle24 (talk) 12:29, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
Yeah the shot I posted earlier from the deleted scene isn't Haynes; Haynes does appear in the deleted scene (on the right here) but I mistakenly thought the shot of the back of the guy's head was him. And yep, he definitely also appears in the episode, you can see him here--Acer4666 (Talk) 12:36, 19 September 2022 (UTC)