Talk:Mandy

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Contents 1 Picture 2 Sexual orientation 3 Assumed Experience? 4 Day 4 5 An alias? 6 Season 8

[edit] Picture

I'd rather use the portrait-size pic of her in front of the SUV. It fits in better with the other main characters' pics. --Pyramidhead 21:34, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

I understand that justification, but I prefer the picture of her aiming the pistol for the following reasons:

1. The profile picture is meant to tell the readers something about the character, to sum him/her up. An infobox picture of David Palmer at Lake Oswego fishing with his son would never do, since he's most always in a suit, being Presidential. As such, a picture of Mandy in captivity gives readers a very poor representation the character. Nina in prison might make sense, as she was captive for a long time, but Mandy as we see her is nearly always active on her own terms, committing crimes, being a killer. She was only held by the government for a brief time, just long enough to confirm the location of Marwan's chopper. A staged picture of her with handcuffs is as inappropriate as a picture of Palmer fishing on the lake.

2. Sometimes wiki users make an effort to use the sidebar pic of the character as last seen. This isn't something often done here, anyway, as an infobox picture of Edgar Stiles dead on the ground would be immediately reverted. Also, although we last saw Mandy in captivity, it was only temporary, as the terms of the deal were clear: she was to be released upon confirmation of her intel.

3. I find the pic of Mandy by the SUV in handcuffs to be simply ugly. The lighting is god-awful and she looks like she is about to transform into a zombie. I also get the impression she is wearing a wig. Mia Kirshner is an outstandingly beautiful woman, who plays an extremely dangerous character, so I find an ugly pic of a helpless woman to be a terrible representation of her. – Blue Rook 18:33, 2 May 2008 (UTC)_talkcontribs

[edit] Sexual orientation

Is it necessary to mention in the summary at the top that she was bi-sexual? We're supposed to be respecting everyone and labeling someone as bi-sexual as the first thing we say isn't really respecting her. It's more appropriate for a "relationships" section. --24 Administration 20:25, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

You know, I'm wondering if she's really bisexual or if she's lesbian? I mean, the only sexual encounter we've seen from her that appears genuine was with Bridgit. When we've seen her with a man, it just seems like she's playing him for the sake of accomplishing her objective. Hypnometal 10:32, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

I'd say to assume neither, just in case; just all her "either". OneWeirdDude 00:13, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Assumed Experience?

Why do we have a section called "Assumed Experience"? -Kapoli 22:19, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Day 4

Did Mandy use the name "Mandy" in Day 4? As far as I can remember, she was just referred to as "the hostile". -- Azure Syaoran 04:04, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

If that is the case, I do not believe that it would change anything in her entry here. Do you feel that something should be changed in her entry if the answer is "yes", or do you ask out of curiosity? Blue Rook 04:46, 19 April 2007 (UTC)_talkcontribs

[edit] An alias?

When was it stated in the show that "Mandy" is not her actual first name? I know she's gone by other names, but that doesn't really verify that "Mandy" isn't her real one. Is this alias claim something that's been proven, or mere conjecture? James26 23:48, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

Frankly, I don't know. It might have been during the opening eps of Season 1, but I personally can't verify it just yet. That's a good thing to call into question. If no one can verify it soon, we will have to remove all that "alias" stuff from the article, because we don't accept pure conjecture in the articles here. Blue Rook  talk  contribs 18:23, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

I'm 95% sure Findings at CTU covers this, but I'll have to check for specifics. Near as I can remember, S1 doesn't indicate that Mandy is an alias. S2 doesn't address her name at all. And I think S4 only refers to her as "Rothenburg." --Proudhug 21:48, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the fast and cordial responses :) -- James26 00:47, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Wait a minute, if her name isn't mentioned at all in Season 2 and she has a different name in Season 4, how do we know it's her name. Maybe they are different characters?

99.242.69.253 02:22, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

We know that Mandy is the same character throughout the seasons for 2 reasons I can think of. Aaron Pierce in Season 4 gives a presentation to David Palmer and Logan that indicates the attacker from the end of Season 2 is the same woman captured by Jack, Curtis, and Tony at The Mercerwood. The actress is also credited as Mandy in Seasons 1 and 4. The logical conclusion is that "Mandy" is not as likely to be an alias since her employer Ira Gaines referred to her as such, whereas "Rothenberg" was used by expendable assets like Joz and Shari. "Rothenberg", her Season 4 alias, was no more likely to be her real name than "Miranda Stapleton", her Season 1 alias. Blue Rook  talk  contribs 04:09, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Hey again, everyone. Been nearly a month since we first addressed this. Was there a conclusion reached? --James26 18:07, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

I feel silly to say this, but I forgot my conclusion since I never posted it here. What I did was, I went to amazon.com, performed a simple "Search Inside This Book" for the House Special Subcommittee Findings at CTU novel, for the text Mandy and Alias. I can't remember my results, and I can't duplicate this procedure now because it keeps crashing the crappy browser I'm using today. But you/someone else can do it, let me know what you find. I'm trying to remember, and I think Proudhug is correct: the Findings novel calls the name "Mandy" another alias. Blue Rook  talk  contribs 22:41, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

I'm off my computer soon but if anyone wants to check then they can follow the link. [1] -2Anthony4/Talk/Edits22:21, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

That link does not work for me, but I searched myself and found our answer. On p119, Bauer tells Fulbright that there was an "assassin whose known aliases are 'Miranda Stapleton' and 'Mandy'." So there is an IU reference to "Mandy" being an alias, after all. Blue Rook  talk  contribs 07:50, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. --James26 22:19, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Season 8

Can't believe they didn't use her in season 7. I really, really, really hope she comes back in season 8. I mean, she's alive. There's no reason for her to stop just because she was caught by Jack this one time.