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[edit] Novels

Can I make a novels list, where I list how many novels each character has appeared in? It might be interesting to see who is in the most novels or who is in quite a few of them. It would probably have to be noted that novel appearances are not included in the overall tally. --SignorSimon (talk/contribs/email) 18:26, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

Wow if you can make such a thing accurate, why not? Something like "Extended universe recurring characters" or whatevs? Blue Rook  talk  contribs 21:27, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

By that, do you mean just a separate heading as that? Maybe at the bottom so it won't be confused with the main section? --SignorSimon (talk/contribs/email) 22:13, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

I meant originally a different page. I guess another section could work, but what are your thoughts on a separate article? Blue Rook  talk  contribs 23:46, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

Sure, a seperate article could work! And do you mean to have each novel as a different heading, and include which characters appear in each HOUR under each heading? That would be a mammoth task but would be awesome in terms of a better step towards novel-article-completeness! --SignorSimon (talk/contribs/email) 07:17, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

I never even thought about that. If you're comfortable with listing each character and then posting their hours, that would be pretty intense. I don't think it's necessary, but if you're down for it, be bold haha. Blue Rook  talk  contribs 13:01, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

I didn't mean listing each hour, just listing how many hours they were in overall, like how each season is here. Could do the same with The Game missions. --SignorSimon (talk/contribs/email) 17:59, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

I think the best approach would be to only include recurring characters (but not recurring within each novel, etc). So it would work the same as this page, but independently of it. However, much like with the character appearances sections, each EU item would only count as one appearance. A breakdown of hour appearances would seem unnecessary, especially for things like comic books, but it may be possible to include it unobtrusively. --Proudhug 18:43, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

All I meant was to include it on one seperate page that would resemble this page, except with each novel / game / comic instead of "Day 1", "Day 2" etc. The appearances in each novel hour would not be present anywhere else except on that page.
Proudhug, what do you mean by "recurring characters (but not recurring within each novel)"? Do you mean only characters that are recurring from the TV series? If I'm cataloguing appearances, I might as well do everyone who has a significant role in that novel. --SignorSimon (talk/contribs/email) 18:47, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

I mean that a character who appears in more than one novel gets included, but not one that only appears repeatedly in the same novel. Otherwise they're not "recurring" because novels only count as one item, unlike TV episodes. Information like that can be included on the page for the novel itself. Or on a page like "Expanded universe main characters" or something. --Proudhug 18:52, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

What would be the need to create another new page besides the one we are proposing here that would include similar information. I know novels only count as one item, but it might be useful to list all the hourly appearances for each novel at least on one page. --SignorSimon (talk/contribs/email) 19:12, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

Then, like I said, it might be more suitable for the novel's page itself. Novel chapters aren't very long or eventful compared to an episode hour, usually, so I doubt it would really be worth including on a whole separate page. --Proudhug 19:21, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Overhaul

As per the discussion on Talk:Main characters, I have overhauled the page. I'm pretty sure there are some intra-season-recurring and multi-season recurring characters missing from the list, so feel free to rummage through and verify. But from now on, we're going to skip anything about actors and credits here. Also I've put instructions not to calculate anything from Season 7 until it's done airing.. if someone disagrees with that, please bring it up here before doing it. Blue Rook  talk  contribs 01:05, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

What's the rationale for not including Season 7? I see no problem with keeping the page current and up-to-date. There's no other area of Wiki 24 where we do anything like this. --Proudhug 01:13, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
To be frank, there is no real rationale. I was hoping people would just agree; it's arbitrary and you're welcome to remove the notes if you want. I put it there because of my opinion that I can't stand statements in background/notes where editors mention the exact number of a character's appearances into a current, unfinished season. This page would essentially have a whole section of that. It's not much different than other content, like you say, just a personal dislike since it involves numbers which almost certainly must change every week (instead of writing which is just added to if need be). Blue Rook  talk  contribs 17:12, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
I just started the Season 7-only section. Personally I am going to refrain from updating the Multi-season area until season 7 ends, but of course if someone wants the headache of doing it every week, they're welcome to. Also, the list needs a few more people like Brett, Doug, Eileen, and Jackie/Marcy to be catalogued yet, but otherwise it's looking pretty complete. Blue Rook  talk  contribs 23:53, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
I think it's only a headache when it's scattered over multiple pages BG sections. But one section of one page is pretty easy to maintain. --Proudhug 00:54, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
You're right. It's when they're scattered like that when it gets me frustrated the most. I've updated this page for S7 where I could see it was necessary. Also, do you think it's a good idea to link this in the See Also sections of some major characters? Currently it's highly unlikely that new users would ever navigate to this page since it has so few non-discussion page links. Blue Rook  talk  contribs 16:57, 13 March 2009 (UTC)